<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254568">I don't have any suggestions. We are fortunate in our community who handle this sort of thing professionally and they jump in to help us when needed.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254570"><br></div><div>Just sitting down and discussing it in a positive 'we want to help you' way would seem reasonable.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254550"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254551">Mac<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254530"><span></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254284"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254564" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254563"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254562"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254561"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254566" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254631"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254630">From:</span></b> Ron Blechner <contraron@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mac Mckeever <macmck@ymail.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Caller's discussion list <callers@sharedweight.net>; Martha Wild <mawild@sbcglobal.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:51 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Callers] Difficult dancers as a caller<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_254633"><br><div id="yiv6556929921"><div><div>Mac, suggestions on how?<div><br clear="none"></div><div>(Guessing this is more of an organizer, not caller, thing to do.)<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Ron Blechner</div></div></div><div class="yiv6556929921gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv6556929921gmail_quote">On Mar 7, 2017 9:51 AM, "Mac Mckeever via Callers" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv6556929921gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv6556929921yqt2845888916" id="yiv6556929921yqt37932"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_219757"><span id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220055">It has been my experience that dancers with limited skills/ability often do not realize they are different from anyone else. They assume that being lost and confused during a dance is normal.</span></div><div id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220160"><span id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220055"><br clear="none"></span></div><div id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220162"><span id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220055">Finding a gentle way to bring this to their attention might be a good way to start</span></div><div id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220158"><span id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220055"><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220129"><span id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220055">Mac McKeever</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220143"><span id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220055">STLouis</span></div><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_219758"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yahoo_quoted" id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_219762" style="display:block;"> <div id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_219761" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_219760" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr" id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_219759"> <font id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_219764" size="2" face="Arial"> </font><hr id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220114" size="1"> <b id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220176"><span id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220175" style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Martha Wild via Callers <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net">callers@lists.sharedweight. net</a>><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Caller's discussion list <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:callers@sharedweight.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:callers@sharedweight.net">callers@sharedweight.net</a>> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:40 AM<br clear="none"> <b id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220173"><span id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220172" style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Callers] Difficult dancers as a caller<br clear="none"> </div> <div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373y_msg_container" id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220164"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284"><div id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488681982697_220166">As one other caller mentioned - what I do as a caller is avoid looking at that dancer AT ALL. That confuses me, and I will miscall if I get to caught up in what is happening there. What I do is look ASAP for the dancers who are doing the moves smoothly and well, and I call to them, making sure I call clearly at the start of the four beats before each move will start, and not at the two beats before that I might often use, to give a little extra time for the person to react. If there is a four in line down the hall, I will call for the turn also on beat five of the phrase before (just as above, just saying it differently) ensuring that they turn around and head back in time to cast off or do whatever needs to be done in time for the next move. If I call carefully and steadily and clearly at the appropriate time for a few times through the dance to the experienced dancers, I generally find that once I look at the problem area, it has resolved. Also - I don’t vary or shorten my calls, as I might otherwise, and I might say Neighbor balance and swing, or With the next couple star left - telling them who to do it with and what, or face across, right and left through - which way to face etc. especially on any figure that might be confusing. <div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284"><br class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284yqt3330822588" id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284yqt74448"><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284"><br class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" clear="none"><div><blockquote class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" type="cite"><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284">On Mar 6, 2017, at 3:45 PM, Alexandra Deis-Lauby via Callers <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" ymailto="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net">callers@lists.sharedweight. net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284Apple-interchange-newline" clear="none"><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284"></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284yqt3330822588" id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284yqt41360"><div><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284"><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284"><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" style="direction:inherit;">Inspired by Marie's other thread, I wonder what tools callers use when they encounter a dance floor with such a dancer, especially if there is only one who is having so much difficulty but who leaves confused dancers in their wake. Do you call to that dancer? Do you call earlier? Do you adjust your program accordingly? Something else? </div><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" style="direction:inherit;"><br class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" style="direction:inherit;">Thanks,</div><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" style="direction:inherit;">Alex</div><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" style="direction:inherit;"><br class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" clear="none"></div><br class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" clear="none">Sent from my iPhone</div></div>______________________________ _________________<br class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" clear="none">Callers mailing list<br class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" ymailto="mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net">Callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a><br class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net">http://lists.sharedweight.net/ listinfo.cgi/callers- sharedweight.net</a><br class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" clear="none"><br class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yiv1608860284" clear="none"></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yqt3330822588" id="yiv6556929921m_-4933324917921423373yqt76231">______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">Callers mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net">Callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net">http://lists.sharedweight.net/ listinfo.cgi/callers- sharedweight.net</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div><br clear="none">______________________________ _________________<br clear="none">
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