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<p>go back far enough (1700s) and you get "moulinet" in French
sources, "mill" in some English sources,f or what I'm pretty sure
are hands-across stars.</p>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11374">Millstone or
"windmill" - term I've seen used in print for older Canadian
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Re: [Callers] Wrist-Lock Stars<br>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11449">I've
never heard "millstone" or "mill" before, but it
sounds like it has precedence. My guess is that it
was (is?) a useful term at dances where
hands-across stars are default. Since that isn't
generally the case in many places any longer, it
makes sense that "hands-across" has become the
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I attended the Berea Christmas Dance
School forty years ago, and put my hand
on the wrist in front of me during a
walk through, someone complained,
saying, "He said a star, not a mill!"</div>
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the term "mill", or the term
"millstone", commonly used to refer to
wrist stars in areas where hands-across
is the default way of doing a star?</div>
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agree with Chet that Louisville's
default star is hands-across,
although weekend festivals in
nearby cities tend toward the
millstone star. I avoid the terms
wrist-lock or even wrist-grip
star, as I prefer the fingers to
lay atop the adjoining wrist
without using the thumb to "grip"
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Midwest where I dance/call now
is pretty solidly wrist-star
territory (St. Louis, Columbia
MO, Kansas City, Lawrence). When
I call one-night events
(parties, weddings), I dictate
hands-across stars, but when
calling for an established
contra community I ask for the
default.</div>
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I have been to contra
dances and festivals all over
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everywhere I have danced
everyone automatically uses a
wrist-lock star<br
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But I am constantly
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When I go to somewhere
like The Flurry and see 600
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wrist-locks it seems to me
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been common in America for a
long time; this<br
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Vermont and shows wrist-lock
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