<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11374">Millstone or "windmill" - term I've seen used in print for older Canadian dances.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11375"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11376">Bob Livingston<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11377"><span></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11441"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11447" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11446"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11445"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11444"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11443" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11442" size="1"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_17130"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_17129">From:</span></b> Angela DeCarlis via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Jacob or Nancy Bloom <jandnbloom@gmail.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net><br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_17077"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_17076">Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 10, 2016 12:45 PM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11516"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11515">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Callers] Wrist-Lock Stars<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11448"><br><div id="yiv6189442737"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11450"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11449">I've never heard "millstone" or "mill" before, but it sounds like it has precedence. My guess is that it was (is?) a useful term at dances where hands-across stars are default. Since that isn't generally the case in many places any longer, it makes sense that "hands-across" has become the more useful modifier. </div>
<div class="yiv6189442737gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11452"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv6189442737gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11454">On Oct 10, 2016 11:37 AM, "Jacob or Nancy Bloom via Callers" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11510">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv6189442737gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11459"><div class="yiv6189442737yqt4352809464" id="yiv6189442737yqt28989"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11458"><div class="yiv6189442737gmail_default" style="font-size:small;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11457">When I attended the Berea Christmas Dance School forty years ago, and put my hand on the wrist in front of me during a walk through, someone complained, saying, "He said a star, not a mill!"</div><div class="yiv6189442737gmail_default" style="font-size:small;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11509"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6189442737gmail_default" style="font-size:small;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11508">Is the term "mill", or the term "millstone", commonly used to refer to wrist stars in areas where hands-across is the default way of doing a star?</div><div class="yiv6189442737gmail_default" style="font-size:small;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11507"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6189442737gmail_default" style="font-size:small;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11506">Jacob Bloom</div><div class="yiv6189442737gmail_default" style="font-size:small;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11503"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6189442737gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11461"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv6189442737gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11460">On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Jerome Grisanti via Callers <span dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11502"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11501">callers@lists.sharedweight. net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv6189442737gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11463"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11462">I agree with Chet that Louisville's default star is hands-across, although weekend festivals in nearby cities tend toward the millstone star. I avoid the terms wrist-lock or even wrist-grip star, as I prefer the fingers to lay atop the adjoining wrist without using the thumb to "grip" in any way.<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11464"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11465">The Midwest where I dance/call now is pretty solidly wrist-star territory (St. Louis, Columbia MO, Kansas City, Lawrence). When I call one-night events (parties, weddings), I dictate hands-across stars, but when calling for an established contra community I ask for the default.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11466"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11467">--Jerome</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11468"><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv6189442737gmail_extra" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1476117131489_11499"><br clear="all"><div><div class="yiv6189442737m_-8114670252173775259m_7610660757969429416gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Jerome Grisanti<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">660-528-0858</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.jeromegrisanti.com/">http://www.jeromegrisanti.com</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><span style="color:rgb(20,24,35);font-size:14px;line-height:19.3199996948242px;"><font face="georgia, serif">"Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe</font></span><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br clear="none"><div class="yiv6189442737gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:31 AM, John Sweeney via Callers <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net">callers@lists.sharedweight.ne t</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv6189442737gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi all,<br clear="none">
I have been to contra dances and festivals all over America and<br clear="none">
everywhere I have danced everyone automatically uses a wrist-lock star<br clear="none">
(unless the caller has specified hands-across because of the subsequent<br clear="none">
choreography).<br clear="none">
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But I am constantly challenged in England by people claiming that<br clear="none">
wrist-lock stars are not the standard in America.<br clear="none">
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When I go to somewhere like The Flurry and see 600 people from all<br clear="none">
over the country all doing wrist-locks it seems to me that it must be the<br clear="none">
standard way of doing things.<br clear="none">
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And obviously it has been common in America for a long time; this<br clear="none">
video is from 1964 in Northern Vermont and shows wrist-lock stars:<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZubTju7g_s">https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=pZubTju7g_s</a><br clear="none">
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So, are there still significant communities that don't use<br clear="none">
wrist-locks?<br clear="none">
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Is the wrist-lock the de facto standard?<br clear="none">
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Thanks.<br clear="none">
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Happy dancing,<br clear="none">
John<br clear="none">
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