<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the feedback on how it went. Someone else suggested trying to get a regular grand square into the program earlier in the weekend, which may have helped. <div><br></div><div>I do think there are other dances which differentiate in 4x4s, such as the center 4 star, or having one person in a group of four lead the rest of the line. I agree it's more of a cognitive load though. </div><div><br></div><div>Another version I considered, Fox Hollow Fallacy, had the same bent 4x4 set-up but then had you do the grand square with heads and sides couples. So you're working with your corner instead of your partner. I hope to try that at some point and see how it goes. You could go even further in homage to square dancing and start it with right side couples one time, then head couples the next, then left side couples, then side couples; an alternating four-phase sequence (RHLS gives a more even distribution of the roles than RLHS). But that's more of the square "pay attention to the caller" tradition than contra's "learn the dance and the caller drops out" tradition. I can imagine another F word dancers might use to name that Fox Hollow variant...</div><div><br></div><div>For anyone out that way considering attending, I thought the dance weekend as a whole was loads of fun. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:46 PM, David Harding via Callers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi Luke, thanks for a great weekend. I'm piping up as a dancer
who had hoped that you would call a grand square in a contra
formation after the discussion here. Tonight I find myself in an
analytical frame of mind, thinking about where we stumbled, in the
hope that you (and others) will keep calling this dance and have
great success with it. <br>
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<p>I'm from Illinois, but a regular at the two Wisconsin weekends
(IndepenDance and Squirrel Moon). The programs tend to be
dominated by contras, but with enough squares so most dancers are
familiar with the basic concepts. I haven't been keeping count,
but it feels as though most weekends include one dance with a
grand square, and I felt that there were sufficient dancers on
Sunday who knew the grand square figure that we should have been
fine. <br>
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<p>Personally, I struggled to remember which direction to start as
we flip-flopped from side to side. I think a lot of us were
disoriented that way. Even in a square dance with rotating
partners, one role usually stays home and can anchor the
orientation. <br>
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<p>Part of my problem was not (yet) having internalized my identity
as part of a right or left couple in a four-facing-four. I don't
need to think any more when I'm addressed as a gent (or lady), as
a middle or inside or outside. I know when I'm a head or a side.
I know where to find my corner wherever I am at the moment. But I
don't recall dancing a four-facing-four where the right couples
did something different from the left couples. <br>
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<p>My two cents in the interest of continuous improvement. <br>
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<p>-Dave Harding<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks John, that does seem like a fun bit to
incorporate.
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<div>I ran the Fox Hollow Foibles dance with the Grand Square
happening on the diagonal at IndepenDance in Wisconsin. Folks
seemed to have fun with it, but it was certainly challenging
(my sense is that community doesn't do many squares; Grand or
otherwise). </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Of
course contra dancers like swinging, so you could
try incorporating this version into a contra dance:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfqC8uVfCUo" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfqC8uVfCUo</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">In
“Cowboy Dances” (1939) there was also a version with
half a two-hand turn (but they called it a swing!)
every time you met someone.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Happy
dancing,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">John</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">John
Sweeney, Dancer, England <a href="mailto:john@modernjive.com" target="_blank">john@modernjive.com</a>
01233 625 362 <a href="http://www.contrafusion.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.contrafusion.co.uk</a>
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