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    <p>Hi Luke, thanks for a great weekend.  I'm piping up as a dancer
      who had hoped that you would call a grand square in a contra
      formation after the discussion here.  Tonight I find myself in an
      analytical frame of mind, thinking about where we stumbled, in the
      hope that you (and others) will keep calling this dance and have
      great success with it.   <br>
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    <p>I'm from Illinois, but a regular at the two Wisconsin weekends
      (IndepenDance and Squirrel Moon).  The programs tend to be
      dominated by contras, but with enough squares so most dancers are
      familiar with the basic concepts.  I haven't been keeping count,
      but it feels as though most weekends include one dance with a
      grand square, and I felt that there were sufficient dancers on
      Sunday who knew the grand square figure that we should have been
      fine.  <br>
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    <p>Personally, I struggled to remember which direction to start as
      we flip-flopped from side to side.  I think a lot of us were
      disoriented that way.  Even in a square dance with rotating
      partners, one role usually stays home and can anchor the
      orientation.  <br>
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    <p>Part of my problem was not (yet) having internalized my identity
      as part of a right or left couple in a four-facing-four.  I don't
      need to think any more when I'm addressed as a gent (or lady), as
      a middle or inside or outside.  I know when I'm a head or a side. 
      I know where to find my corner wherever I am at the moment.  But I
      don't recall dancing a four-facing-four where the right couples
      did something different from the left couples.  <br>
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    <p>My two cents in the interest of continuous improvement.  <br>
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    <p>-Dave Harding<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/5/2016 12:15 PM, Luke Donforth via
      Callers wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Thanks John, that does seem like a fun bit to
        incorporate. 
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        <div>I ran the Fox Hollow Foibles dance with the Grand Square
          happening on the diagonal at IndepenDance in Wisconsin. Folks
          seemed to have fun with it, but it was certainly challenging
          (my sense is that community doesn't do many squares; Grand or
          otherwise). </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 5:20 PM, John
          Sweeney via Callers <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Of
                    course contra dancers like swinging, so you could
                    try incorporating this version into a contra dance:</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfqC8uVfCUo"
                      target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfqC8uVfCUo</a></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">In
                    “Cowboy Dances” (1939) there was also a version with
                    half a two-hand turn (but they called it a swing!)
                    every time you met someone.</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Happy
                    dancing,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">John</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">John
                    Sweeney, Dancer, England <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:john@modernjive.com" target="_blank">john@modernjive.com</a>
                    01233 625 362 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.contrafusion.co.uk"
                      target="_blank">http://www.contrafusion.co.uk</a>
                    for Dancing in Kent</span> </p>
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          <div dir="ltr">Luke Donforth<br>
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