<div dir="ltr">Luke,<div><br><div>In square dance there is a figure called grand sashay. It is essentially a grand R&L, or weave the ring, with dosidos and seesaw. You might look that figure up as the weave is a dodge, and the dosido//seesaw would allow for twirling.</div><div><br></div><div>I have included the definition below. Grand Sashay is fun to dance, and the hands can be eliminated if desired. If it is done inside a square or mescolanza it should bring the four dancers back to where they started it, and it would be 32 steps/beats. </div><div><br></div><div>That is a long time to keep the men inactive. However if all eight dancers danced it in a mescolanza, they would end up on opposite ends and in opposite lines. This could be a useful call that results in progression just as in a R&L Grande. Dancers could balance & swing and then face original direction when they meet.</div><div><br></div><div><dt style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Definition:</b></dt><dd style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;margin-top:3px;margin-bottom:3px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><p style="font-size:10pt"></p>From a Right And Left Grand Formation (e.g., after Allemande Left).<p style="font-size:10pt">Dosado, right pull by;<br>Seesaw, left pull by;<br>Dosado, right pull by;<br>Seesaw, left pull by.</p><p style="font-size:10pt">Ends in a Right And Left Grand Formation.</p></dd><p style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></p><dt style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>Comments and Examples:</b></dt><dd style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;margin-top:3px;margin-bottom:3px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><p style="font-size:10pt"></p>Same as <b>Right And Left Grand</b> except that a<br><b>Dosado</b> or <b>Seesaw</b> (left-shoulder Dosado)<br>is inserted before each pull by.<p style="font-size:10pt">The Burleson's definition says to bow before each pull by.</p></dd><dd class="" style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:8pt;margin-top:3px;margin-bottom:3px;color:rgb(165,42,42)"><p style="font-size:10pt"></p>Rickey Holden 1949</dd></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks all for the feedback. I appreciate having this list to kick ideas around. <div><br></div><div>While it would be possible for the do-si-dos to happen in two groups of 2; in my opinion that would make this a particularly non-interacting 4x4; as the only whole group of 8 interaction at that point is the circle half way; and thus not worth getting into 4x4 formation for just that. </div><div><br></div><div>As for my comment about the ladies after the chain.</div><div><br></div><div>After the give&take - swing, the lines are:</div><div><div>w3 m1 w4 m2</div><div>m3 w1 m4 w2</div></div><div><br></div><div>When the women chain to the partner, if they went straight up and down, they're ending up back at:</div><div>w1 m1 w2 m2</div><div>m3 w3 m4 w4</div><div>after being courtesy turned through 180 degrees.</div><div><br></div><div>Except the next move is happening in the center, so as w2 and w3 are being courtesy turned, they'll be facing into the center after maybe 140 degrees of rotation; whereas w1 and w4 have to turn about 220 degrees to face into center. </div><div><br></div><div>As for language, I think I may have muddied the issue; so thank you for demonstrating all the ways that my instructions could be interpreted. Always a learning experience. A handless star/promenade inside/4 person gypsy is not quite what I had in mind, although they're all basically the same path on the floor and certainly what I described. I'd envisioned folks getting to do-si-do with as little or as much twirling as the wanted; but as folks pointed out, the DSD twirl is the opposite direction of the big picture rotation.</div><div><br></div><div>If I can get dancers to test it, I might describe it as "all four women, do-si-do your opposite woman while dodging the other two"</div><div><br></div><div>Given that's how I'm thinking of it; the fact that my description involves "dodging" might be a sign it's not such a great idea. The promenade inside or star options might be more timing resilient; although I like the idea of letting folks safely twirl when they want.</div><div><br></div><div>I'll keep turning it over in my head, and try to get guinea pigs to dance it (there's something that would go viral on youtube...)</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for being a community to talk about dancing with :-)</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Luke</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></font></span></div>
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