<p dir="ltr">Sharp uses the term "whole-gip" in part II of the country dance book. I have scans here: <a href="http://www.jefftk.com/p/history-of-the-term-gypsy">http://www.jefftk.com/p/history-of-the-term-gypsy</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">He doesn't use the figure in the first part at all.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 26, 2015 8:13 PM, "Jacob or Nancy Bloom via Callers" <<a href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I've changed the name on the thread, to reflect the change of subject to historical background.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I acknowledge Alan's point, that, unless a pre-Cecil Sharp source shows up for the use of the term 'gypsy' as a country dance figure, the bulk of my hypothesis falls apart.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">As for the use of the terms 'gyp' and 'gypsy' in Morris dance, <u>The Morris Book</u> by Cecil Sharp and Herbert Macilwaine defines the figure "Half-Hands or Half-Gip" in part I, page 65, and defines the figure "Whole-Gip or Gipsies" on page 32 of Part III.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">No explanation for the derivation of the terms is given in either volume. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I do not have a copy of Sharp's Country Dance Book at hand. Did someone say that Sharp did not use the term gypsy in it?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Jacob</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:40 AM, Alan Winston <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:winston@slac.stanford.edu" target="_blank">winston@slac.stanford.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 10/24/15 10:32 PM, Jacob Nancy Bloom
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">See the
link below for more information on the dance The Spanish Gypsy
(or Jeepsie), the song from which the tune for the dance came,
and the 1623 play from which the song came, which had the
title "The Spanish Gypsy".</div>
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sans-serif"><a href="http://www.pbm.com/%7Elindahl/lod/vol4/spanish_gipsy.html" target="_blank">http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/lod/vol4/spanish_gipsy.html</a></font><br>
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sans-serif">I'll go out on a limb and make some historical
pronouncements which cannot be proven, but which seem most
probable to me:</font></div>
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<div><font face="verdana,
sans-serif">The dance title The Spanish Gypsy came from the
dance being done to a tune associated with the play The
Spanish Gypsy.</font></div>
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Sure, extremely plausible.<br>
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sans-serif">The dance figure Gypsy got its name from the
prevalence of the figure in the dance The Spanish Gypsy.</font></div>
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If true, only true in the modern revival. (Basically, Cecil Sharp
made up *and named* the Gypsy figure. In Spanish Jeepsie -
reconstructed at the link you have above- the figure isn't a gypsy,
and it isn't called a gypsy. It's a back to back.)<br>
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Point me toward dance notation published before 1900 that uses the
term "gypsy" as the name of a figure, and then we can talk. Until
there's some evidence that Elizabethan dancers used the figure name,
your argument dies here.<br>
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<div><font face="verdana,
sans-serif">The Morris dance figures whole-gyp and half-gyp
were originally called whole-gypsy and half-gypsy.
(Although parts of England had and ancient tradition of
seasonal dancing under the name Morris Dance, it seems
likely, from the nature of the dances, that the form of the
Cotswold dance traditions collected by Cecil Sharp only went
back to the Elizabethan period.)</font></div>
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I think you're saying that Cotswold dances as collected by Sharp and
others reflected Elizabethan country dances as shown in Playford,
and that whole-gyp and half-gyp were therefore originally named
after the (notional) country dance figure and were thus properly
named whole-gypsy and half-gypsy. Please correct me if I've
misunderstood this.<br>
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This is irrelevant unless you can show that Elizabethan country
dance actually had a figure called gypsy, which you haven't. (And
it's actually irrelevant even if you can, since once you draw a line
from the play to the tune to the dance you've said what you can
about it not being an ethnic stereotype.)<br>
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But if it *were* relevant, I'd ask you to explain why these
Playford-following Elizabethan morris dancers used "half-gypsy" for
what Playford called "sides all".<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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-- Alan <br>
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