<p dir="ltr">Eddie is also a gender name, thus I would rule that out. Vortex doesn't exactly come off well on the mic. Swirl sounds way too much like circle unless you are none ciating very very crisp late, in which case you are going to get some Pardes sounds hissing on the mic.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thus, I don't like any of the three. I suggest spiral instead.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 25, 2015 3:02 PM, "Amy Wimmer via Callers" <<a href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div></div><div>I'm not fond of "eddy," "vortex," or "swirl" because they all imply twirling, which is not what the gypsy move wants. That defeats the purpose, in my mind. "Facing" seems most appropriate, useful and descriptive of the terms suggested.</div><div><br></div><div>-Amy</div><div><br>On Oct 25, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers <<a href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">I don't like the idea that a term we use might be offensive to someone. I think part of its tenacity is that it can be used for a whole family of similar eye locking moves. The term walk around will not serve in what is now called a gypsy star, or in a traveling gypsy, gypsy chase, or gypsy hey, which all have eye contact as a common element. </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">In discussing with dancers, I heard objection to the terms catching eyes, grabbing by the eyes etc. made them think of hands in eyes. Not that they didn't understand, but it was distasteful to them. </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Perhaps we could agree to a term like 'facing' to link the diverse moves together. It is used in squares in cases where instead of the usual facing someone's back, you are face to face (as in a facing diamond). This un-knots all the alternative moves (facing star, facing hey, travel facing). </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">I don't actually think of a plain gypsy as involving a shoulder, but rather a side of my face. Go R face round your N, ladies L face round each other? Facing indicates where we should look more or less without demanding eye contact. I like eye contact, but some are profoundly uncomfortable with it. I dislike when they choose to twirl their bodies rather than at least look in my general direction. Facing helps with that. I'm sure we will come up with something better, but I'd like a solution that acknowledges this family of moves.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">I'm not fond of eddy, for its aural similarity to the name Eddie. Spiral, vortex etc, while all sort of indicative of rotation, also indicate to me the funnel effect, which is not the only way we use the move. Many gypsies merely move us smoothly on to another dancer. </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">One final thought, offered mostly for grins. I have occasionally thought of a gypsy as two people walking round a maypole. We could say R maypole round your N, Ladies L maypole in the center, go one and a half to your P, R maypole and swing your partner. :D</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Andrea</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br>Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">On Oct 25, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Joy Greenwolfe via Callers <<a href="mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank">callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></span></font></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">I once had someone explain the gypsy as not trusting someone enough to take their eyes off of them (!), so I agree that the underlying meaning can be problematic, to say the least. Other moves have historical meanings too, but Gypsy as a term is more pejorative than, say, Allemande, which references traditional German folk dance hand holds. </span></font><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">I like Michael's suggestion for <b>"eyes." </b>When teaching, it could be described as "walk around holding eyes," which is similar to how I already describe it (holding eyes instead of hands). Then during the dance, the call could be shortened to "eyes" or "hold eyes." Something like "Ladies hold eyes" seems to roll off the tongue with a good rhythm. Or maybe "Ladies by the eyes?" </span></font><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Melting could still be melting. Not sure how I'd fix my gypsy chase move, though. </span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">There is also the issue of avoiding similar directions that would confuse the dancers, such as in a Mad Robin where you are encouraged to hold eyes with the person across from you, but not actually rotate around them. Maybe we need an alternate descriptive/evocative term, like the way a Mad Robin is sometimes called Sliding Doors. </span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">A single orbit? Eyes single? Star single? Hands off? </span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">I'm also curious about thoughts about to what degree we might explain the change to dancers. From most of the dancers' perspective, it may be "if it ain't broke, don't change it." We might get push-back from dancers exasperated with what seems to them like an arbitrary term change. Maybe if the term is more descriptive, they won't notice as much. "Holding Eyes" works for me. </span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Just some thoughts. </span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Joy Greenwolfe</span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><a dir="ltr">Durham, NC</a><br></span></font><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Callers mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Callers@lists.sharedweight.net" target="_blank">Callers@lists.sharedweight.net</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net" target="_blank">http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div>
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