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I've used the statement, "when did SHUT UP become impolite to say?"<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/22/2015 7:48 PM, Michael Fuerst
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<div> On the question of paying attention:<br
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A while back, in one of these e-groups, someone
pointed out that we contra dancers keep talking
about "community." This post pointed out that we
contra dancers go to a dance, and, often forsaking
applause (yet another topic...), run off to find our
next partner and line up for a dance. This posting
compared that to country-western dance, or swing
dance, where they would sit around a table and talk,
get to know others through chatting, and not dance
every dance, but have other social things happen. It
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Often, after people have lined up, they talk with
each other, their partner, their minor set, or other
people around them. Often callers strive to get
everyone to shut-up so they can start the dance.
I've come to believe this time of conversation is
the main time we get to know a little about each
other and is thus a "community building time." <br
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My practice now is to say into the mic in a regular
talking voice, "Are you ready?" If the general
banter keeps going on, I wait a couple beats, and
say, again, "Are you ready?" After two to four times
of asking the question, someone will say, "Yes!"
Then another might do a loud, "Shhhh!" When people
finally quiet down, I teach the dance. <br
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~erik hoffman<br clear="none">
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8/4/2014 10:26 AM, barb kirchner via Callers
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<div dir="ltr">sometimes when dancers aren't
paying attention, it's because there are too
many other things going on in the hall.
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<div>sometimes it's the band warming up or
sound checking, but i've seen all kinds of
things going on - bake sales, people on
their mobile devices, a group of beginners
coming in who don't yet know dance
etiquette, or maybe the dancers are having
trouble hearing you. sometimes musicians
talk loudly behind the caller (i'm a
musician and a caller) and it's hard to
understand the caller because the chatter
can be heard through mics or pick-ups.</div>
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<div>you can't fix some of those things, but
you can address retail events in the hall,
cell phones, sound system, etc</div>
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<div>are your experienced dancers modelling
good dance etiquette? <span
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efficiently, or are you spending so much
time talking that people lose interest?</span></div>
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<div>sometimes, i just start the walkthru
anyway. as soon as people realize that most
people are starting to swing, they get a
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> Subject: Re: [Callers] When the
dancers aren't paying attention<br
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> It depends why the dancers aren't
paying attention. Are there lots of<br
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> experienced dancers, such that the
walkthrough isn't really necessary?<br
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> Are they ignoring walkthroughs the
first time through because they<br
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> know there will be a second one? Are
they just having a lot of fun<br
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> with their friends and prioritizing
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> A few strategies I might try:<br
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> * Not bother with the walkthroughs
entirely. If the crowd is ignoring<br
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> the walkthroughs because as a whole
they don't need them, then just<br
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> call the dance. This means only
picking dances that can be called<br
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> no-walkthrough, but there are still a
lot to choose from.<br clear="none">
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> * Give the dancers a bit longer
between dances before starting the<br
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> walkthrough. If they're chatting with
neighbors and catching up, let<br
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> them do that for a bit. Then once you
start the walkthrough go<br clear="none">
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> * Ask the band for rolling starts,
where they play music under the<br
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> walkthrough. This makes it harder for
people to talk and feels more<br
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> like dancing. You don't have time to
explain complex things, so you<br
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> have to give that up, but it's much
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> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Maia
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> > At Falcon Ridge this weekend, I
saw a couple of different styles of
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> > with that frustrating state of
affairs when 50%+ of the hall just isn't<br
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> > paying attention to the
walk-through. I'm curious if you all have
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> > particular strategies you employ
here, thoughts on how to deal with this,<br
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> > In dance,<br clear="none">
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