[Callers] Demolition Derby, a 4 Face 4 of dubious do-ability?

[Don Veino]

Hi,

Thanks for the replies, I'll address the points in-line below.

-Don

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Luke Donforth <luke.donev at gmail.com> wrote:

> The sense I have of the A2 bit is that you've combined a mad robin with a
> hey, right?  I'd start with that as the description. It's just a hey
> passing the one you swung by right shoulder, but you're facing your partner
> in the other line of four as you go.
>

A Hey obviously works, but I originally envisioned something more wide like
a Mad Robin (fewer, bigger loops) so the combination was meant to be more
like if a Figure 8 and a Mad Robin had a love child. Each dancer was to
follow the path of their own personal full Figure 8 from their differing
starting positions.

>
> And if it's not a hey, but in fact something a little different then a hey
> in terms of the switches, then I'd try to see if it would work as a mad
> robin hey...
>

I got a chance to try out just the critical bits on the sideline with some
very experienced dancers this evening. The Fig-8 style sequence works as
envisioned, but it is pretty much impossible to teach - as it violates
firmly ingrained dancer expectations. It took an excessive amount of time
before they'd do it as instructed, they **want** it to be a Hey and kept
accidentally twiddling it to be so. I understand why - it was the reason
I'd originally put this aside.

Despite my own discomfort with the additional crosses of a Hey with that
facing, they liked it being done while facing Partners up/down (we only had
a single line/4 to try it so could only simulate with ghosts). I accept
that going with the Hey is the best way to go, and leaving it to a styling
option if folks want to do it facing Partners MR-like (it will work fine if
some folks do and others don't).


> But then, I'm not actually sure what you mean by weave the ring in B1; so
> possibly I should get some more sleep after my own gigs.
>

Standard Weave the Ring 1/2x around the group of 8, starting by passing
Partner right. The Circles of 4 @3/4x after the A2 effectively puts
everyone on the corner of the minor set/8 with their Partner such that it
should be easy to pull into the Weave and end with P on the opposite
diagonal.

>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 3:01 PM Bob Green via Callers <
> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Well Don, you know you shouldn't be smoking that stuff....... )))
>>
>
Not that I would ever go there, but Massachusetts is taking its sweet time
post-legalization. :-)


>
>> Sugar Hill is next weekend. We should be able to wrangle up enough
>> dancers to give this a decent walk-thru. This looks like a great dance to
>> tryout at 4:00 in the morning. :::wink:::
>>
>
Would love to hear about it if you do give it a go.


> If I have this right you are weaving the line, but faced like you are a
>> crab.
>>
>
Hopefully the additional commentary above clarifies. The A2 now becomes
simply a Full Hey for 4 in the parallel lines/4, starting with a pass the
Opposite (you swung) outside by right (lefts in center). Facing up/down at
your Partner Mad-Robin-style while doing the parallel moves is a styling
option (one I'd love to try).


>> This is one of those I think a demo set would be the most expedient teach
>> the A2.  Get 8 dancers walked through it before the dance starts or at the
>> break.
>>
>
Thanks for the advice. Even with the change to a more typical Hey, the
styling demonstration would likely still be helpful.


> If I have this right you are weaving the line of 4 facing up & down the
>> hall, faced like you are a crab.
>>
>
See above.

>
>> Looks like it might be fun!
>>
>> Bob Green
>>
>>
>> [trimmed out original post details]

>
>
> --
> Luke Donforth
> Luke.Donforth at gmail.com <Luke.Donev at gmail.com>
>
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