[Callers] Cheat Sheet of Dance Move Substitutions?

[Angela DeCarlis]

Great advice, thank you Jerome! I'll think more on that, for sure.

On Nov 16, 2017 11:38 AM, "Jerome Grisanti" <jerome.grisanti at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Angela,
>
> Square dance callers do these substitutions as well.
>
> One very basic exercise for Modern Western Square Dance callers is to
> develop sequences (2, 3, 4 or more) moves that get dancers to the zero box,
> which is most easily visualized by having head couples move forward one
> step, then turning away from your partner and facing your corner.
>
> Add in sequences to rotate the square halfway, 1/4 or 3/4, use symmetrical
> calls, and sets can easily be scrambled and then resolved using plug-in
> sequences to "find your corner, allemande left, etc."
>
> Back to contra:
>
> Although one might consult an existing database, I think it's probably
> more useful to develop ones own mental database by sitting down and writing
> sequences for each situation. (In the case of contra, neutral (8-count and
> 16-count sequences), men change (8- and 16-count), women change (8- and
> 16-count), couples change (8- and 16-count)). Yes, you will likely develop
> a list with much overlap with other callers, but I believe the exercise is
> worth it. And you may come up with some unique, or at least rarely used,
> combinations.
>
> Good luck!
>
> --Jerome
>
>
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> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Angela DeCarlis via Callers <
> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Look at Cary Ravitz's web page on contra dance choreography (
>>> http://www.dance.ravitz.us/chor.php), especially the section on what he
>>> calls black boxes.  http://www.dance.ravitz.us/chor.php#m  I think that
>>> is exactly what you are asking about.  He did a useful workshop on that
>>> subject at Pigtown Fling a few years ago.
>>>
>>> David Harding
>>>
>>
>> Thank you so much David! I think this is exactly the kind of information
>> I'm looking for, but I'm finding the format which Cary has everything set
>> in pretty difficult to digest. I'll have to set aside some time to parse
>> the information in a way that makes more sense to me.
>>
>> Anyone else have any leads?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Angela
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:00 PM, DAVID HARDING <dharding101 at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Look at Cary Ravitz's web page on contra dance choreography (
>>> http://www.dance.ravitz.us/chor.php), especially the section on what he
>>> calls black boxes.  http://www.dance.ravitz.us/chor.php#m  I think that
>>> is exactly what you are asking about.  He did a useful workshop on that
>>> subject at Pigtown Fling a few years ago.
>>>
>>> David Harding
>>>
>>> On November 15, 2017 at 11:39 AM Angela DeCarlis via Callers <
>>> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I'm remembering a few workshops I'd taken with Rick Mohr a few years
>>> ago, and also an occasion where I collected a dance from his calling. He
>>> happily gave me the name and author of the dance, but was also quick to
>>> note that he had substituted out different moves for 16 counts of the
>>> dance, so that it would work better with his evening's program.
>>>
>>> Now, someone like Rick can just do this in his head. He has a data base
>>> of common combinations of dance moves, and where everyone ends up after
>>> executing them. As such, he can easily make substitutions on the fly,
>>> because he knows offhand that A+B=X+Y.**
>>>
>>> What I'm wondering is, has anyone bothered to write down and compile a
>>> list of common choreography substitutions? I'm thinking a spreadsheet of
>>> some sort, where we think about the net product of various combinations of
>>> dance moves, and categorize the combinations based on their output.
>>>
>>> For example: Neighbor Promenade across, Ladies Chain = Long Lines
>>> Forward and Back, Gents Allemande L 11/2.
>>>
>>> If no one has already done this, I'll start a new thread where we can
>>> begin to collaboratively write one up!
>>>
>>> Thanks, All!
>>> Angela
>>>
>>>
>>> **Yes, the momentum in each of these scenarios is probably different,
>>> and one might be better than another. But this depends on the rest of the
>>> dance's choreography, and for these purposes I don't especially care. :)
>>>
>>> ***Also worth acknowledging that substituting out an entire 16-count
>>> phrase could easily result in calling a different dance written by a
>>> different author, but I'm more concerned about using this technique for
>>> practical programming purposes.
>>>
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