[Callers] Another vote for "jets" and "rubies"

[Ron Blechner via Callers]

Cara,

Further reading:

http://contradances.tumblr.com/post/132380206885/lead-and-follow-as-styles-not-roles-in-contra

Best,
Ron Blechner

On Jan 18, 2017 11:03 PM, "Cara Sawyer via Callers" <
callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi everyone again,
> Angela, Jeff thank you.
> I appreciate knowing the emotional attachment many had to the history of
> these calling terms. I had no clue. From where I was coming from, it was
> more of a logistical question for my calling aspirations, trying to figure
> out what is easiest for the dancers to understand. I have had personal
> experience with it being difficult to remember if I was a Band or Bare, it
> seems arbitrary and now I see that this is intentional. It is good to hear
> some of the rationale and what others have experienced.
>
> Best,
> Cara
>
> Sent to you using thumbs.
>
> On Jan 18, 2017, at 18:59, Jeff Kaufman <jeff.t.kaufman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Cara!
>
> There is definitely a history! Many dancers don't like lead/follow as
> terms because they either don't think contra has a lead/follow dynamic or
> they don't want to encourage lead/follow dancing.
>
> Some dance series, primarily ones with younger dancers, do use those
> terms, but there are enough dancers opposed to them that I don't see them
> as a potential community-wide replacement the way rubies/jets could be.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Jan 18, 2017 7:53 PM, "Cara Sawyer via Callers" <
> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>> I am quite new to the list and am only now embarking on learning to call,
>> but I have to ask a question I have had for awhile as a dancer that I now
>> need to understand as a caller: is there something wrong with Lead and
>> Follow?
>>
>> When I first encountered the creative alternatives in contra, I wasn't
>> sure what to think. I came to contra from a swing background and that is
>> what is used in workshops (and sort or in general now), since many people
>> switch in that dance style as well.
>>
>> Besides being an obvious description for the dancer role, it had the same
>> 1/2 syllables rhythm as Gent/Lady. And it seems to me to have the advantage
>> of being intuitively linked to how the dancer is thinking about
>> his/her/their role.
>>
>> Just curious if there is a history, I'm sure I am not the first person to
>> think of this.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Cara
>>
>> Sent to you using thumbs.
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2017, at 10:40, Angela DeCarlis via Callers <
>> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>> When I called at PICD (the Portland ME dance), I really enjoyed using
>> Jets and Rubies. One silly thing I enjoyed any the terms during the
>> beginners' lesson was coaching palm direction based on the terms: "Jets'
>> palms face up, towards the sky; Rubies' palms face down, towards the
>> ground."
>>
>> And yes, I realize that *both* are gemstones and that some feel strongly
>> that we should steer away from the "airplane" association, but it did make
>> for easy teaching.
>>
>> Jets and Rubies is also more forgiving for callers new to gender-neutral
>> language, since the terms are so linguistically comparable to Gents and
>> Ladies.
>>
>> That all said, I also like Larks and Ravens fine.
>>
>> Happy calling, everyone!
>>
>> Angela
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2017 11:30 AM, "Aahz via Callers" <
>> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Not that Portland, the other Portland.  ;-)
>>>
>>> http://bangordailynews.com/2017/01/09/news/portland/contra-d
>>> ancing-takes-a-gender-neutral-spin-in-portland/
>>>
>>> I personally would prefer to settle on "larks" and "ravens" because that
>>> seems to have more traction -- but it doesn't matter as long as we get
>>> away from "bands" and "bares".
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