[Callers] Existential Inquiry

karl via Callers callers at lists.sharedweight.net
Wed Jul 27 14:19:23 PDT 2016


On 07/27/2016 04:10 PM, Greg Allan via Callers wrote:
> I agree with Martha and Colin. There's no reason to think that any contra
> dance without two swings has a bug, necessarily, although Don may have been
> in the mindset of fulfilling the desires and catering to the tastes of his
> audiences when he said what he said. I can support that, too!
>
> Greg
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 3:01 PM, via Callers <callers at lists.sharedweight.net
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>>     1. Another Existential Inquiry (Don Veino via Callers)
>>     2. Re: Another Existential Inquiry (Martha Wild via Callers)
>>     3. Re: Another Existential Inquiry (colin at colinhume.com via Callers)
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:39:33 -0400
>> From: Don Veino via Callers <callers at lists.sharedweight.net>
>> To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers at sharedweight.net>
>> Subject: [Callers] Another Existential Inquiry
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>> Given the simplicity of the following, I expect to confirm they already
>> exist... but thought I'd check in with the knowledgeable horde here on SW.
>>
>> This is something I apparently "wrote" over a year ago but found again
>> during a files dive today. :) I expect I may have put it aside due to no
>> Neighbor swing in the first pass. Spun off w/another A2 to address that
>> just now, below.
>>
>> Revisiting them in light of the great heat we've had locally, they might be
>> sweet lower exertion dances with the right tunes. And lack of a second
>> swing can be a "feature" vs. "bug" in such conditions.
>>
>> Please let me know the real author(s), should it not be me. :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don
>>
>> Don Veino DRAFT 20150117 - Becket Left/CW
>>
>> A1
>> LT Diag R&L Thru
>> Ladies Chain Straight Across
>> A2
>> Star Left
>> Star Right
>> B1
>> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
>> B2
>> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
>> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>>
>> Don Veino DRAFT 20160726 - Becket Left/CW
>>
>> A1
>> LT Diag R&L Thru
>> Ladies Chain Straight Across
>> A2
>> Ladies Glance Around* Right 1x
>> Neighbor Swing
>> B1
>> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
>> B2
>> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
>> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>>
>> *Glance Around is just a placeholder for that other call, you know the
>> one...
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>> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:57:30 -0700
>> From: Martha Wild via Callers <callers at lists.sharedweight.net>
>> To: Don Veino <sharedweight_net at veino.com>
>> Cc: Caller's discussion list <callers at sharedweight.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Another Existential Inquiry
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>> What is it with people and every dance having to have a neighbor swing? I
>> personally dislike dance programs where every dance has a neighbor swing.
>> Sometimes I?d like to pay attention to the partner I?m dancing with and not
>> everyone else. Sometimes interesting choreography is available when you
>> don?t have to squeeze two swings into everything. It adds variety to a
>> program when there some dances without neighbor swings.
>>
>> When I first started dancing many years ago, lots of dances didn?t have a
>> partner swing and only had a neighbor swing. Mother-in-law dances, we
>> called them. And sometimes, when I had a partner who was really bad at
>> swinging, I was happy to do them!
>>
>> So I don?t think your first dance is fatally flawed, or even should be
>> considered as having a bug - it?s just what it is, a dance with a partner
>> swing, and as you said, on a hot night in a crowded hall without
>> air-conditioning, one swing, or even dances where only actives swing, can
>> suddenly be desirable.
>>
>> Martha
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Don Veino via Callers <
>> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>> Given the simplicity of the following, I expect to confirm they already
>> exist... but thought I'd check in with the knowledgeable horde here on SW.
>>> This is something I apparently "wrote" over a year ago but found again
>> during a files dive today. :) I expect I may have put it aside due to no
>> Neighbor swing in the first pass. Spun off w/another A2 to address that
>> just now, below.
>>> Revisiting them in light of the great heat we've had locally, they might
>> be sweet lower exertion dances with the right tunes. And lack of a second
>> swing can be a "feature" vs. "bug" in such conditions.
>>> Please let me know the real author(s), should it not be me. :)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Don
>>>
>>> Don Veino DRAFT 20150117 - Becket Left/CW
>>>
>>> A1
>>> LT Diag R&L Thru
>>> Ladies Chain Straight Across
>>> A2
>>> Star Left
>>> Star Right
>>> B1
>>> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
>>> B2
>>> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
>>> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>>>
>>> Don Veino DRAFT 20160726 - Becket Left/CW
>>>
>>> A1
>>> LT Diag R&L Thru
>>> Ladies Chain Straight Across
>>> A2
>>> Ladies Glance Around* Right 1x
>>> Neighbor Swing
>>> B1
>>> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
>>> B2
>>> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
>>> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>>>
>>> *Glance Around is just a placeholder for that other call, you know the
>> one...
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>> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:05:54 -0400
>> From: "colin at colinhume.com via Callers"
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>> To: callers at sharedweight.net
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Another Existential Inquiry
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>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:57:30 -0700, Martha Wild via Callers wrote:
>>> ?What is it with people and every dance having to have a neighbor swing? I
>> personally dislike dance programs where
>>> ?every dance has a neighbor swing. Sometimes I?d like to pay attention to
>> the partner I?m dancing with and not
>>> ?everyone else. Sometimes interesting choreography is available when you
>> don?t have to squeeze two swings into
>>> ?everything.
>> That's exactly what I think, and I'm so pleased to hear an American say the
>> same thing!
>>
>> Colin Hume  (currently in Ann Arbor, MI where I'm calling a workshop of
>> Advanced Contras & Squares on Saturday)
>>
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