[Callers] Existential Inquiry

Wed Jul 27 13:10:14 PDT 2016

I agree with Martha and Colin. There's no reason to think that any contra
dance without two swings has a bug, necessarily, although Don may have been
in the mindset of fulfilling the desires and catering to the tastes of his
audiences when he said what he said. I can support that, too!

Greg

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> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:39:33 -0400
> From: Don Veino via Callers <callers at lists.sharedweight.net>
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> Subject: [Callers] Another Existential Inquiry
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> Given the simplicity of the following, I expect to confirm they already
> exist... but thought I'd check in with the knowledgeable horde here on SW.
>
> This is something I apparently "wrote" over a year ago but found again
> during a files dive today. :) I expect I may have put it aside due to no
> Neighbor swing in the first pass. Spun off w/another A2 to address that
> just now, below.
>
> Revisiting them in light of the great heat we've had locally, they might be
> sweet lower exertion dances with the right tunes. And lack of a second
> swing can be a "feature" vs. "bug" in such conditions.
>
> Please let me know the real author(s), should it not be me. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
> Don Veino DRAFT 20150117 - Becket Left/CW
>
> A1
> LT Diag R&L Thru
> Ladies Chain Straight Across
> A2
> Star Left
> Star Right
> B1
> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
> B2
> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>
> Don Veino DRAFT 20160726 - Becket Left/CW
>
> A1
> LT Diag R&L Thru
> Ladies Chain Straight Across
> A2
> Ladies Glance Around* Right 1x
> Neighbor Swing
> B1
> Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
> B2
> Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
> Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
>
> *Glance Around is just a placeholder for that other call, you know the
> one...
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> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:57:30 -0700
> From: Martha Wild via Callers <callers at lists.sharedweight.net>
> To: Don Veino <sharedweight_net at veino.com>
> Cc: Caller's discussion list <callers at sharedweight.net>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Another Existential Inquiry
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> What is it with people and every dance having to have a neighbor swing? I
> personally dislike dance programs where every dance has a neighbor swing.
> Sometimes I?d like to pay attention to the partner I?m dancing with and not
> everyone else. Sometimes interesting choreography is available when you
> don?t have to squeeze two swings into everything. It adds variety to a
> program when there some dances without neighbor swings.
>
> When I first started dancing many years ago, lots of dances didn?t have a
> partner swing and only had a neighbor swing. Mother-in-law dances, we
> called them. And sometimes, when I had a partner who was really bad at
> swinging, I was happy to do them!
>
> So I don?t think your first dance is fatally flawed, or even should be
> considered as having a bug - it?s just what it is, a dance with a partner
> swing, and as you said, on a hot night in a crowded hall without
> air-conditioning, one swing, or even dances where only actives swing, can
> suddenly be desirable.
>
> Martha
>
>
> > On Jul 26, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Don Veino via Callers <
> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >
> > Given the simplicity of the following, I expect to confirm they already
> exist... but thought I'd check in with the knowledgeable horde here on SW.
> >
> > This is something I apparently "wrote" over a year ago but found again
> during a files dive today. :) I expect I may have put it aside due to no
> Neighbor swing in the first pass. Spun off w/another A2 to address that
> just now, below.
> >
> > Revisiting them in light of the great heat we've had locally, they might
> be sweet lower exertion dances with the right tunes. And lack of a second
> swing can be a "feature" vs. "bug" in such conditions.
> >
> > Please let me know the real author(s), should it not be me. :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Don
> >
> > Don Veino DRAFT 20150117 - Becket Left/CW
> >
> > A1
> > LT Diag R&L Thru
> > Ladies Chain Straight Across
> > A2
> > Star Left
> > Star Right
> > B1
> > Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
> > B2
> > Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
> > Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
> >
> > Don Veino DRAFT 20160726 - Becket Left/CW
> >
> > A1
> > LT Diag R&L Thru
> > Ladies Chain Straight Across
> > A2
> > Ladies Glance Around* Right 1x
> > Neighbor Swing
> > B1
> > Big Oval Left and Right (until opposite P)
> > B2
> > Gents Allemande Left 1/2x
> > Partner Glance Around* Right, Swing
> >
> > *Glance Around is just a placeholder for that other call, you know the
> one...
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:05:54 -0400
> From: "colin at colinhume.com via Callers"
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> Subject: Re: [Callers] Another Existential Inquiry
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:57:30 -0700, Martha Wild via Callers wrote:
> >?What is it with people and every dance having to have a neighbor swing? I
> personally dislike dance programs where
> >?every dance has a neighbor swing. Sometimes I?d like to pay attention to
> the partner I?m dancing with and not
> >?everyone else. Sometimes interesting choreography is available when you
> don?t have to squeeze two swings into
> >?everything.
>
> That's exactly what I think, and I'm so pleased to hear an American say the
> same thing!
>
> Colin Hume  (currently in Ann Arbor, MI where I'm calling a workshop of
> Advanced Contras & Squares on Saturday)
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