[Callers] tips for teaching dancing the "other" role?

Alexandra Deis-Lauby via Callers callers at lists.sharedweight.net
Wed Jul 6 13:02:58 PDT 2016


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On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Dale Wilson <dale.wilson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Exactly, it's the hand that confuses me.
> On Jul 6, 2016 1:40 PM, "Alexandra Deis-Lauby" <adeislauby at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Left hand?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Dale Wilson via Callers <
>> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>> When I'm dancing the lady's role the only thing I consciously think
>>> about is putting my right and on the Gent's shoulder as we start to swing.
>>> If I get that right, everything else seems natural (to me).
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:13 PM, tavi merrill via Callers <
>>> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Regarding swing position: With good frame, differences between the
>>>> roles in giving weight are slight. But not all dancers are accustomed to
>>>> good frame.
>>>>
>>>> I find a mirrored ballroom hold (both dancers have right hand on the
>>>> other's shoulder blade, left hand on the other's shoulder) offers several
>>>> advantages:
>>>>        - In general, it's a good hold for dancers to know as it saves
>>>> space in crowded halls.
>>>>        - It facilitates spinning out from a swing, useful when dancers
>>>> encounter "string of swings" choreography
>>>>        - It allows both dancers to experience both sides of good frame
>>>> The one challenge is that dancers need to remember which side they are
>>>> ending the swing on, as it removes "pointer hands" from the equation.
>>>>
>>>> This a bit of a tangent, but related to the chain: If we just called
>>>> gents chains (by either hand! the courtesy turn for a left-hand chain isn't
>>>> REALLY that complicated, folks) more often, role differences WRT chain
>>>> would be a moot issue, and both roles would be better equipped to
>>>> understand/offer/ask/decline flourishes. All for the effort of teaching one
>>>> move well, one move that's out there in good choreography waiting to be
>>>> used.
>>>>
>>>> Susan, I'm assuming this workshop is at a gender-free series, but
>>>> geared to encourage attendance by dancers who aren't yet accustomed to
>>>> gender-free dance? Having danced both roles widely and called a bit of
>>>> gender-free, I'd be happy to chat by phone or IM. Feel free to ping me on
>>>> facebook - Tavi Merrill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/5/2016 11:32 AM, Susan Pleck via Callers wrote:
>>>>> > Hi folks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm to lead a workshop/extended intro lesson at a local dance this
>>>>> > Saturday on gender-free dancing/dancing the "other" role/switching
>>>>> > roles.  Not having done this before, I'd appreciate any thoughts or
>>>>> > advice about what this should include.  For the gender-free aspect,
>>>>> > I'm not sure there's much to discuss, really; ir'd be more just
>>>>> giving
>>>>> > dancers a chance to practice responding to different terms.  For
>>>>> > dancing the other role, though, what points of emphasis do you think
>>>>> > would be most useful?  Two that come to mind are swing
>>>>> > positioning/giving weight, and figures such as a chain where the
>>>>> > actions of the two roles are different.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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