[Callers] tips for teaching dancing the "other" role?

[Dale Wilson via Callers]

Exactly, it's the hand that confuses me.
On Jul 6, 2016 1:40 PM, "Alexandra Deis-Lauby" <adeislauby at gmail.com> wrote:

> Left hand?
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Dale Wilson via Callers <
> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> When I'm dancing the lady's role the only thing I consciously think about
>> is putting my right and on the Gent's shoulder as we start to swing.  If I
>> get that right, everything else seems natural (to me).
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:13 PM, tavi merrill via Callers <
>> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Regarding swing position: With good frame, differences between the roles
>>> in giving weight are slight. But not all dancers are accustomed to good
>>> frame.
>>>
>>> I find a mirrored ballroom hold (both dancers have right hand on the
>>> other's shoulder blade, left hand on the other's shoulder) offers several
>>> advantages:
>>>        - In general, it's a good hold for dancers to know as it saves
>>> space in crowded halls.
>>>        - It facilitates spinning out from a swing, useful when dancers
>>> encounter "string of swings" choreography
>>>        - It allows both dancers to experience both sides of good frame
>>> The one challenge is that dancers need to remember which side they are
>>> ending the swing on, as it removes "pointer hands" from the equation.
>>>
>>> This a bit of a tangent, but related to the chain: If we just called
>>> gents chains (by either hand! the courtesy turn for a left-hand chain isn't
>>> REALLY that complicated, folks) more often, role differences WRT chain
>>> would be a moot issue, and both roles would be better equipped to
>>> understand/offer/ask/decline flourishes. All for the effort of teaching one
>>> move well, one move that's out there in good choreography waiting to be
>>> used.
>>>
>>> Susan, I'm assuming this workshop is at a gender-free series, but geared
>>> to encourage attendance by dancers who aren't yet accustomed to gender-free
>>> dance? Having danced both roles widely and called a bit of gender-free, I'd
>>> be happy to chat by phone or IM. Feel free to ping me on facebook - Tavi
>>> Merrill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/5/2016 11:32 AM, Susan Pleck via Callers wrote:
>>>> > Hi folks,
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm to lead a workshop/extended intro lesson at a local dance this
>>>> > Saturday on gender-free dancing/dancing the "other" role/switching
>>>> > roles.  Not having done this before, I'd appreciate any thoughts or
>>>> > advice about what this should include.  For the gender-free aspect,
>>>> > I'm not sure there's much to discuss, really; ir'd be more just giving
>>>> > dancers a chance to practice responding to different terms.  For
>>>> > dancing the other role, though, what points of emphasis do you think
>>>> > would be most useful?  Two that come to mind are swing
>>>> > positioning/giving weight, and figures such as a chain where the
>>>> > actions of the two roles are different.
>>>>
>>>>
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