[Callers] here it is - sorry

[Winston, Alan P. via Callers]

Whoops, didn't see the "please move on" request.  Please disregard.

-- Alan

On 4/4/2016 3:13 PM, Winston, Alan P. via Callers wrote:
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>
> On 4/4/2016 9:10 AM, Darwin Gregory via Callers wrote:
>>
>> While I am relatively new to contra, and just called my first dance 
>> this weekend, The Baby Rose... I'll have never considered gypsy a 
>> term related to a race of people, nor did I know it was applied today 
>> to a group of people called Romas.
>>
>> However, my general position on terms that have both discriminatory 
>> and non-discriminatory meanings is that the meaning needs to be 
>> derived by context.
>>
>> Before reading the discussions here, I had only considered the 
>> meaning of gypsy as related to wandering dancers... Not a particular 
>> ethnic group.  Perhaps my view has been naive.
>>
>
> Ok, cool.
>>
>> While I am sensitive to cultural issues, until someone comes up with 
>> a term that captures not only the physics of the move, but also the 
>> flirtatious nature of it, I will probably grimace any time someone 
>> uses a different term. Orbit, no handed swing, whatever... Until 
>> something emphasizes the flirtatious eye contact it will fall short 
>> in my mind.  It is more than a figure, it is a figure with an 
>> attitude.  :)
>>
>
> Wait.  Why does the word "gypsy" imply flirtatious eye contact?
>
> (I'm not trying to police what words you use or what you do when 
> calling, but I don't understand your logic here, which seems to be:
>
>  "gypsy in dance context harmlessly refers to dance gypsies, not 
> ethnic Gypsies"
>  "'gypsy' is the only satisfying term for the figure I've heard 
> because it implies flirtatious eye contact".
>
> I'm kinda suspecting that the implication of flirtatious eye contact 
> is because of ideas of ethnic gypsies, gypsy dance, etc, but maybe you 
> have another reason and I'd like to hear it.
>
>
> -- Alan
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