[Callers] Advice about "gypsy"

[Michael Barraclough via Callers]

Flirting - I try not to suggest that
Name - not worried what we call it
Suggestion - I sometimes call it 'eyeballs'. It works well.
-- 
Michael Barraclough
michael at michaelbarraclough.com
www.michaelbarraclough.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Martha Wild via Callers <callers at lists.sharedweight.net>
Reply-to: Martha Wild <mawild at sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] Advice about "gypsy"
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 15:36:40 -0700

I can see from this discussion that there is definitely merit in giving
this move a different name, though I had never thought of it as a
derogatory term before. I rather like the idea suggested in a previous
post of "eddy" because it is short and to the point and sounds different
from other calls. "Walk all around your neighbor/partner" is fine for a
walkthrough and as a description, but not very good for a quick reminder
when you'd rather be calling a lot less. 


Another move that one would have to rename is the "gypsy star". I have
personally always called the move "gypsy star" as "star wrong" - mostly
because if I say "gypsy star" there is always at least one couple in the
crowd that starts to gypsy and swing (eddy and swing?) instead of doing
the star. "Star wrong" is also short and to the point and emphasizes the
oddity of the star - two people backing up and two going forward. It
seems to get the job done.


Martha



On Oct 24, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:

> In square dance, the call "walk all around your left hand lady" is
> very close to a right shoulder gypsy, and "See Saw is a left shoulder
> walk around.  A left shoulder Dosido is no longer called a See Saw,
> but a Left Dosido.
> 
> Walk all around your nieghbor or partner, and see saw your neighbor or
> partner, may be able to replace the gypsy without generating any new
> terms.
> Rich
> Stafford, CT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Richard Hart via Callers
> <callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> 
>         I always describe a gypsy as being just like a dos à dos, but
>         face to
>         face, instead of back to back.
>         
>         As that is the case, why not use French again. As "dos à dos"
>         means
>         back to back, why not use "face à face" which means face to
>         face?
>         Pronunciation would probably be difficult for those who don't
>         speak
>         French, so it would probably become "facey-face" for many.
>         
>         On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Don Veino via Callers
>         <callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>         > Before I respond directly, I ask that all of us posting what
>         I expect to be
>         > many replies to trim post quotes to just the pertinent bits
>         (particularly
>         > those reading the "digest" version).
>         >
>         ....
>         > Curiously enough, I'd raised this naming issue with a group
>         of callers (and
>         > dancers glommed on) at a house party recently. An area
>         caller had tried
>         > rebranding the Gypsy as an Orbit, which this group rejected
>         due to the
>         > existing usage & meaning for that term. One participant was
>         of Romani
>         > heritage and expressed pride at the existing term and
>         satisfaction at it
>         > being used for such a nice dance move and would feel loss
>         were it to be
>         > renamed. I don't mention this to make excuses for anything
>         that might offend
>         > but rather to show that there are many possible
>         perspectives. I'd since
>         > thought of other possible names and came up with these:
>         >
>         > Swirl - gentlest, unfortunately similar to "twirl" in sound
>         > Cyclone - too "violent", encouraging abandon?
>         > Vortex - distinct in sound, 2 syllables and short when
>         spelled out.
>         >
>         > Sorry you find yourself in this situation. We know your
>         actual intent was to
>         > bring happiness, not offend.
>         >
>         > -Don
>         >
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