[Callers] More on Programming

[Cary Ravitz via Callers]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Ron Blechner <contraron at gmail.com> wrote:

> I didn't read Cary's comments about squares as an "objection", just
> that Cary was rebutting the comment by George: "squares are just like
> contras, only you have to listen."
>
> Yes, thank you.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Jacob Nancy Bloom via Callers
> <callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> > Cary, some of your objections to squares seem a bit contradictory.  Let
> me
> > re-state them, and see if I've understood you correctly.
> >
> > Some squares are unphrased, and those squares have less opportunity to
> > connect your movement to the music.
>
Yes.

> Many squares are danced for a shorter time than contradances are usually
> > danced, and therefore take relatively longer to teach compared to the
> > dancing time.
>
No, in my experience as a dancer, squares take longer to teach and this is
compensated with shorter dance time.


> > Many squares are mixers, and therefore have less time dancing with your
> > original partner than in a contra.
>
Yes.


> > Some squares have visiting couple dances, in which the dancers can only
> make
> > movements in place during some of the music.
>
In my experience as a dancer, visiting couple square use the interaction
sequence 1-2, 1-3, 1-4 and 2-3, 2-3, 2-4, 2-1 and 3-4, ... so for 2/3 of
the dance half the dancers are not included.


> > In all square dances, the need to listen for the calls interferes with
> the
> > relationship you would like to have with the music.
>
Yes.


> >
> > Have I understood your points correctly?  Or  have I not quite understood
> > your meaning?
>
*For me*, this all comes down to dancer, music, motion connection. It can
be wonderful in a contra. I've never found it in a square.


> >
> > Jacob Bloom
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Cary Ravitz via Callers
> > <callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Some things that people to not like about squares -
> >>
> >>   less movement/music connection due to lack of strict phrasing
> >>   having to listen to the caller breaks the movement/music connection
> >>   teaching time
> >>   mixer squares breaks the partner connection
> >>   visiting squares leave people "out of the dance" for long periods.
> >>
> >> I find squares and contras completely different.
> >>
> >
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