[Callers] Contra- roll differences?

[Don Veino via Callers]

Darn spell check... that was meant to be "respectfully." :)

I have to respectively disagree here.


On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Don Veino <sharedweight_net at veino.com>
wrote:

> I have to respectively disagree here.
>
> In my experience, a "roll away" (RA) call has been conflated with a "roll
> away with a half sashay" (RAHS) for many dancers (and callers) - but the
> moves are distinct and can have choreographic significance. What I think
> has happened is that callers are using abbreviated calls of something like
> "roll" for the RAHS situation (which is more common) and that has colored
> the interpretation.
>
> In my understanding, the two calls are like this (the "|" symbol denoting
> the boundary between adjacent hands-four):
>
> "Gents Roll (Away) the Ladies" (Ladies only change position):
>
> Starting position G0 L1|G1 L2|G2 L3
> Ending position G0 L2|G1 L3|G2 L4
>
> "Gents Roll (Away) the Ladies with a Half Sashay" (Ladies and Gents swap
> position):
>
> Starting position G0 L1|G1 L2|G2 L3
> Ending position L1 G0|L2 G1|L3 G2
>
> Of course, this can be also done in other configurations like circles and
> boxes.
>
> I ran into this a short while ago while calling a new (to me) dance and
> having the walk-through fail. I knew the dance was right and my instruction
> was correct. Rather than try to figure it out on the fly I bailed to a
> fall-back dance. As I video most of my gigs, I was able to go back to that
> and see what happened.
>
> In this instance the difference between the calls was very significant. I
> called a RA but the dancers (mostly) did a RAHS. This was in a box
> configuration, meaning the dancer pairing became opposite to what was
> intended. The next time I call this dance I will be sure to say "Roll Away
> BUT NO Half Sashay, Gents stay put".
>
> -Don
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Tom Hinds via Callers <
> callers at lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> I don't think there is a difference.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Claire Takemori via Callers wrote:
>>
>> In Contra dancing, what is the difference between "Roll your ___
>>> Across/along"  and "Roll away with a half sashay"?
>>>
>>> What are your favorite words to teach this move?
>>>
>>> thanks!!
>>> claire takemori (Bay Area, CA)
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