[Callers] No thumb allemandes

John Sweeney info at contrafusion.co.uk
Tue Jul 2 02:06:15 PDT 2013


Martha said, "I agree fully with Erik Hoffman. I can't fathom the no thumb
allemande. How the heck do you get any connection with it? Two flat surfaces
and only friction - you might as well just walk around the other person,
it's worse than a noodle arm. The  way most people do  get connection is to
bend the wrist to provide some contact for shared weight - and that hurts my
wrist horribly. So if someone gives me a no thumb allemande, I comply,
desperately trying not to have my wrist bent, and if it is someone who
doesn't bend the wrist, then there is no connection, no "shared weight" and
no chance if it's a 1 1/2 allemande to get around in time. Erik has always
taught the allemande hold as being a "hook", with the curled fingers
providing the connection, and I have stolen that description from him and
use it myself. The thumb is along for the ride but should not do any
squeezing or gripping, in fact, it can even lie flat next to the curled
fingers and not intersect the other thumb, as he 
 mentions in describing the star hold. Connection without thumb pain."

Maybe there is some confusion about what people mean by a "no thumb
allemande".

What I mean by a "no thumb allemande" is exactly what you describe: "the
allemande hold is a "hook", with the curled fingers providing the
connection. The thumb is along for the ride but should not do any squeezing
or gripping, and should lie flat next to the curled fingers and not
intersect the other thumb."

So, for me, the "no thumb allemande" is a good allemande grip but with the
thumbs NOT interlocked.

I occasionally meet people in the lines who offer me a flat hand with their
fingers straight (sometimes even splayed!) for an allemande.  Very
uncomfortable and useless for zesty dancing.

Happy dancing,
John

John Sweeney, Dancer, England john at modernjive.com 01233 625 362
http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent




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